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  • Q: Why do we need to use dropbear when we could use the Mac OS sshd server? Dobedobedoh
    • A1: doesn't really matter. I dislike OpenSSH, because of it's creators. - Mactijn 11:31, 14 April 2007 (CEST)
    • A2: The Darwin and OSX sshd server doesn't like playing with SSH v2 which is displeasing

  • Q: Why not use telnet for that matter?
    • A: telnet is an unsafe (unencrypted) protocol, plus it does not give us an scp-alike option. Besides, ssh v1 works perfectly. -- Mactijn 23:47, 26 May 2007 (CEST)

  • Q: ARRRGH!!! What size USB stick is necessary??? I am going to sift through all the documentation and instructions just to find out if I can use an old or cheapie usb stick, but I'm sure other newbies would like to know right away what kinda hardware is required. Cuvtixo 23:17, 23 April 2007 (CEST)
    • A: I've got it running on a 256Mb stick. The First partition needs to be about 80Mb for the relevant Kernel extensions and then the second partition is as big as you need it. The second partition (Patchstick) just has the items you wish to install so it depends on how many apps you want to install when you boot from your patchstick really. Dobedobedoh 05:44, 24 April 2007 (GMT)

  • Q: What happens if Apple update the firmware? It will be simply updated? I'll have to do the patchstick process again? My AppleTV will burn itself?

  • Q: You guys have any plans to post instructions on how to do this on a Leopard mac?

Note about the current XML format

Should we perhaps have a conflicts and requirements section in the XML? Its conceivable that some plugins may conflict with one another (e.g. use the same ports, or provide the same functionality), or some may require another component be installed (e.g. A plugin which installs a web-based media manager will require that apache be set up). I think it would make sense to have something along these lines. Perhaps:



And a similar schema for requirements. Dobedobedoh

If you plan on listing all plugins currently on, I do suggest that you enable plugin creators to upload their plugins to the server. This way, anything listed on the plugins site is always downloadable, regardless of whether the authors website is working. It also allows plugin creators without websites to distribute their creations. --Noah 07:00, 12 May 2007 (CEST)

  • Good idea, but that'd amount to a lot of traffic. Based on the download rate of previously released plugins, the amount of traffic needed would be quite over the top. - Mactijn 03:00, 13 May 2007 (CEST)

some plugins are not available

I have noticed, after installing my patchstick with ATV Loader, that some plugins present on are not available for download on my Apple TV. They simply doesn't show up on the list available for downloads, such as:, road trip, and something else i can't remember...

Is this normal? they are not yet available for download via ATV Loader? --jetmcquack 14:50, 27 Oct 2007

So, is this thing working?

The article gives the impression that the patchstick is a work in progress and lots of things don't work yet. Many other articles refer to a working patchstick. Soooo, is this article just wayyyy out of date? Maury Markowitz 21:19, 27 February 2008 (CET)